Affirmative Action Transcript

Tonight we had an engaging conversation about Affirmative Action and the Supreme Court’s decision to hear the case of Abigail Fisher, a white woman, who is suing the University of Texas for denying her admission based in part on race.

We discussed the following questions:

What is the biggest misconception about Affirmative Action in the College Admissions process?

Why is this case significant?

What will happen if the Supreme Court sides with the plaintiff and strikes Affirmative Action down? What will be the immediate effect?

Should the Supreme Court have the power to determine how students are admitted into a college or university? Why or why not?

If Affirmative Action is struck down, how about admitting students based on legacy?  Gender?  Special skills and athleticism?

The entire transcript is available. Affirmative Action Transcript #CollegeChat 2/28/12

#CollegeChat: Is Affirmative Action on the Chopping Block?

Supreme Court of the United States

#CollegeChat “Hot Topics” is back February 28, 2012 at 9 p.m. Eastern and 6 p.m. Pacific. During “Hot Topics” we will be discussing the U.S. Supreme Court’s recent decision to revisit affirmative action. Specifically, the Court will consider the case of Abigail Fisher, a white woman, who is suing the University of Texas for denying her admission based in part on race.

In Adam Cohen’s article for Time Is the Supreme Court Going to Kill Affirmative Actionhe writes:

There are several reasons to believe this could be a Big Case. Affirmative-action critics are certainly talking that way. Ward Connerly, president of the American Civil Rights Institute, called the decision to take the case a “potentially historic step.” And it looks like there are at least four Justices ready to take bold action. But there is also reason to believe the court will stop short — weakening affirmative action but not ending it.

Furthermore, Cohen, a teacher at Yale Law School, argues:

If the Supreme Court strikes down UT’s admissions system, other public schools will have to re-evaluate their admissions policies — and other institutions, from private schools to employers, will likely rethink how they consider race. Affirmative action will not disappear overnight, but the Supreme Court’s conservative bloc appears to be intent on reducing the role it plays in university admissions — and other parts of society.

Finally, Scott Jaschik reported for Inside Higher Education in “Affirmative Action on the Docket”:

And the Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr., the civil rights leader, issued a statement noting the many disparities in American today that place black and Latino citizens at a disadvantage. “So long as these disparities exist, race must continue to be a one of several standards applied and taken into consideration in the pursuit of higher education,” he said. “Along with race, poverty, grades, ability to think and pay tuition, special skills and legacy – even military status – all of these ‘categories’ are taken into consideration during the college admissions process. So too should race and gender.”

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#CollegeChat “Hot Topics”: Paying College Athletes, Selective Colleges for Elite, Online Degree Bias

#CollegeChat “Hot Topics” is back June 7, 2011 at 9 pm Eastern and 6 pm Pacific. During “Hot Topics” we will be discussing:

  • Should college athletes be paid?
  • Are highly selective colleges largely for the elite? Why should this be a matter of national interest?
  • Is there an unfair bias against online degrees?

Athletes

Steve Spurrier, University of South Carolina’s football coach, last week made news when his proposal to pay Division I football players $300 a game for expenses on top of the full scholarships the players already receive. Spurrier’s plan calls for the $300 a game pay day for the players be paid out of the coaches’ pockets.

Rachel George of the Orland Sentinel quoted Spurrier:

“I just wish there was a way to get our players a little piece of the pie. It’s so huge right now,” he said. “As you know, 50 years ago, there was not any kind of money and players got full scholarships. Now they’re still getting full scholarships and the money’s just in the millions. I don’t know how to get it done. Hopefully there’s a way to give our guys that play football a little piece of the pie.”

On a related note, the New York Times recently ran a story titled “CollegeTeams, Relying on Deception, Undermine Gender Equity”. In the article, Katie Thomas reported that many colleges have “resorted to subterfuge to make it look as if they are offering more spots to women.”

Thomas reported:

But as women have grown to 57 percent of American colleges’ enrollment, athletic programs have increasingly struggled to field a proportional number of female athletes. And instead of pouring money into new women’s teams or trimming the rosters of prized football teams, many colleges are turning to a sleight of hand known as roster management. According to a review of public records from more than 20 colleges and universities by The New York Times, and an analysis of federal participation statistics from all 345 institutions in N.C.A.A. Division I — the highest level of college sports — many are padding women’s team rosters with underqualified, even unwitting, athletes. They are counting male practice players as women. And they are trimming the rosters of men’s teams.

Highly Selective Colleges Admission Bias

In David Leonhardt’s recent New York Times article “Top Colleges, Largely for the Elite” he reports that whether you “like it or not” highly selective colleges “have outsize influence on American society. So their admissions policies don’t matter just to high school seniors; they’re a matter of national interest.”

Leonhardt reports on a conversation he had with Anthony Marx, the president of Amherst College.

When we spoke recently, he mentioned a Georgetown University study of the class of 2010 at the country’s 193 most selective colleges. As entering freshmen, only 15 percent of students came from the bottom half of the income distribution. Sixty-seven percent came from the highest-earning fourth of the distribution. These statistics mean that on many campuses affluent students outnumber middle-class students.

“We claim to be part of the American dream and of a system based on merit and opportunity and talent,” Mr. Marx says. “Yet if at the top places, two-thirds of the students come from the top quartile and only 5 percent come from the bottom quartile, then we are actually part of the problem of the growing economic divide rather than part of the solution.”

Laura Stamplar also examined the admission policies of highly selective colleges in her article “Affirmative Action for the Rich: Legacy Preferences in College Admissions” for The Nation.

Stamplar asks in her article:

But what if the extra hours of test prep, perfected essays and community service projects count less than anticipated because many of those prized acceptance letters are already signed, sealed and spoken for based on criteria unrelated to achievement or diversity?

Instead, many of those acceptance letters are going to legacy students who are awarded an additional 160 SAT points (on the former 1600 SAT point scale) to their SAT score. The reason for the bump in their SAT scores is merely for being a legacy student.

Online Degree Bias

Is there bias by potential employers against  hiring online degree holders? According to a literature review titled “Employer Perceptions of Online Degrees: A Literature Review” by Norina L. Columbaro of Cleveland State University and Catherine H. Monaghan, Ph.D., of Cleveland State University, the answer is yes but changing over time.

According to the literature review, in a study conducted by Adams and DeFleur in 2006 about the perceptions about online bachelor’s degrees in the entry level hiring process, 96 percent of hiring executives “indicated that they would choose the candidate with a traditional degree” .

Furthermore, the authors of the literature review explained:

Finally, Seibold’s (2007) qualitative study included gatekeepers from five different industries: “telecommunications, data systems, insurance, finance and rental businesses” (p. 32). She suggests that, even with the increase of online degrees and students and nearly a decade of research, perceptions still exist in the hiring process that traditional degrees are superior to online degrees, although hybrids are gaining acceptability. However, she maintains, “…whatever the state of opinion held today, it is clear that personal experience with online education [on the part of the gatekeeper] had positively influenced the perceptions of those involved in this study” (Seibold, 2007, p. 54).

Background Reading

Paying for Athletes

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/sports/os-steve-spurrier-paying-players-20110601,0,7325283.story
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/06/steve-spurrier-sec-paying-players-proposal/1

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/26/sports/26titleix.html?_r=2&hp

Elite College Bias

NY times: Top Colleges, Largely for the elite

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/25/business/economy/25leonhardt.html?_r=3&pagewanted=2&src=ISMR_HP_LO_MST_FB
http://www.thenation.com/blog/155045/affirmative-action-rich-legacy-preferences-college-admissions

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1442

http://diverseeducation.com/article/10530/

Online Degree Bias

http://elearningtech.blogspot.com/2010/01/value-of-online-degree.html

http://www.westga.edu/~distance/ojdla/spring121/columbaro121.html

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